Latest comment: 7 years ago by Nannadeem in topic Al-Masudi an unpaid historiographer

Muruj al-DhahabEdit

Beside Muruj al-Dhahab, is there any other works of Masudi that is avaliable in European translation?


This was a stub until Farhansher pasted the text from [1] into it. I've reverted to the precopyvio version. Farhansher, please don't do that. It brings Wikipedia into disrepute. Zora 08:20, 14 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

date of death?Edit

On the timeline of Islamic science and technology his date of death is given as 957 (this article gives it as 956). Would be nice to get agreement between the two pages. -- Cimon avaro; on a pogostick. 00:48, 26 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Er staat helaas één ding niet bij. El Masu'di has recorded a traveljournal on his travels to the southern region's of Africa. It is said that he was the very first authentic archiologist to travel further south down the borders of mozambique he visited amongst others the land of the Zanj, also known as Zanzibar. Please update or add this to the text.

He is referred to by Basil Davidson in " The lost cities of Africa. Al Mas'udi finished his journal "Meadows of gold and mines of gems" in 947. Davidson mentiones also that Ali Al Mas'udi retired from travel and finished his last works in 955. He then passed away a year later in 956. --Glynn71 18:36, 3 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's Spelled al-MasudiEdit

I just reverted back to this spelling. That's how it's spelled as the title of the article. It's how he's known to most English readers who know who he is. Gallador 00:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Where is all this stuff coming from? How do we know it is accurate?--Dougweller (talk) 16:46, 16 February 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Moved back to al-MasudiEdit

I just did a search for al-Masudi in Wikipedia. It came up with nothing. Yet there was evidence that an al-Masudi article had existed. After a bit of hunting, I found that someone had moved the article to the full Arabic name.

This is not an Arabic Wiki. Anyone searching for info on this chap will be searching for "al-Masudi". If the article is not under that title, they will not find it. Therefore -- although the longer name is more correct -- we have to have this article under this name. Unless, of course, we don't want people to find it!

I've copied across the talk page and redirected the old page. But no-one who speaks English will be doing searches based on a long string of quotes and accents! Roger Pearse (talk) 13:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Date of birthEdit

Ch. Pellat argues in the article of the Encyclopaedia of Islam that al-Masudi might not be born later than 280/893. Therefore, 896 (the date given by A. Shboul in "Al-Masʿūdī and his world") is under dispute and should be marked as such. Reference and footnotes to all the other information given in the article is still missing as well, so I put the appropriate template. If someone finds the time to deal with the matter, then please do so. -- Dörte K., 09:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problem removedEdit

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My apologies for just removing this text without any attempt to rewrite it but this is not a subject I feel comfortable writing about. Dpmuk (talk) 21:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Al-Masudi's religionEdit

Even if it is decided that this “anti-history” or this “sacred history” of the twelve Imāms is apocryphal, and speculation on the titles of the works catalogued above under the nos. 13-18 is abandoned, it is impossible to deny the S̲h̲īʿism or, more accurately the Imāmism, of al-Masʿūdī. S̲h̲īʿī authors are unanimous in considering him one of their number, and a reading of the Murūd􀀀j􀀀 largely confirms this opinion. Among the Sunnīs it is quite curious that al-Subkī (loc. cit.) and Ibn Tag􀀀h􀀀rībardī (Nud􀀀j􀀀ūm, iii, 315-6) follow al-D􀀀h􀀀ahabī in seeing him only as a Muʿtazilī, while Ibn Taymiyya (Minhād􀀀j􀀀 al-sunna, ii, 129-31) is one of the few who recognises his S̲h̲īʿism, and Ibn Ḥad̲j̲ar al-ʿAsḳalānī reconciles all points of view in pointing out, quite rightly (Lisān al-Mīzān, iv, 224-5), that his writings “abound with signs showing that he was S̲h̲īʿī and Muʿtazilī”. Al-Masʿūdī in fact acknowledges this dual allegiance when he declares 6M, § 2256) that he has chosen some Muʿtazilī doctrines for his own use (cf. above, no. 20), and such an eclecticism was by no means astonishing in the 4th/10th century. As for his mad􀀀h􀀀hab, it would seem to be largely S̲h̲āfiʿī. but nothing can be definitely asserted and it is possible that, in his treatises of fiḳh, he confined himself to dealing with comparative law

" al-Masʿūdī." Encyclopaedia of Islam, Second Edition. Edited by: P. Bearman, Th. Bianquis, C.E. Bosworth, E. van Donzel, W.P. Heinrichs. Brill Online , 2012 --Kazemita1 (talk) 13:31, 13 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

He displayed interest in all religions, including Hinduism and Zoroastrianism, as well as Judaism and Christianity. But he tended to reproduce uncritically what he heard;

John A. Haywood, Britanica Online --Kazemita1 (talk) 09:31, 14 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Al-Masudi an unpaid historiographerEdit

In written History of Muslims which begins after eight century AD, we can see Al-Masudi as an enthusiastic geo-historiographer with no affiliation to any ruling court like many others who were paid employees of ruling kings or governors.Nannadeem (talk) 19:37, 25 October 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]