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May 27Edit
"Barbara D'Urso", not "Barbara d'Urso"Edit
Could someone correct the title of this page? The correct title already exists and, therefore, I would not know how to correct the current title. It's spelled "D'Urso", not "d'Urso". JackkBrown (talk) 00:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @JackkBrown: If you're having issues moving a page for technical issues, bring it up at Wikipedia:Technical move requests, not here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:41, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @JackkBrown you could propose a move on that article's talk page, and from there people can chime in and saywhether or not it should be moved (There will be a tag at the top of the page once a move is suggested, if you did not know already). That doesn't seem like a controversial rename, but it's still better to discuss it in my opinion. Losipov (talk) 00:48, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Losipov: look here, please (uppercase): https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_D%27Urso. JackkBrown (talk) 00:51, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- JackkBrown, the references in the article that use the capital "D" are reliable sources. The Italian Wikipedia article is not a reliable source. See WP:CIRCULAR. Cullen328 (talk) 01:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Losipov: look here, please (uppercase): https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_D%27Urso. JackkBrown (talk) 00:51, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Can you help me with this page?Edit
Hello, can you leave the page as it was before? is that someone edited it and can you please put the official information, Thank you.
https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telet%C3%B3n_1978_(Chile) GasXD (talk) 01:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @GasXD: You are linking to the Spanish Wikipedia, which we have no say over here at the English Wikipedia. You'd need to discuss your issue over there at es:Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:21, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Ref number 7 is not quite right. - please fix if you can. Thanks58.179.137.31 (talk) 02:58, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Referencing errors on ChronophiliaEdit
Reference help requested. I received a notification about a missing periodical citation error in formatting. I'm not sure exactly how to correct it, but I know an official editor/admin corrected such an error for me before, and would appreciate one doing so here. Here is the full information for the source cited, link and publication details: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/293334555_Hebephilic_Sexual_Offending "January 2016 DOI:10.1007/978-1-4939-2416-5_3 In book: Sexual offenders: Predisposing antecedents, assessments, and management (pp.29-44)Publisher: SpringerEditors: Amy Phenix, Harry Hoberman Authors: Skye Stephens Saint Mary's University Michael C Seto University of Ottawa"
Thanks, 2601:14D:4101:E4E0:F1F7:473F:5EBF:CD85 (talk) 03:36, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- You need to fill in the parameters like doi=123 which another editor has done so for you. Lightoil (talk) 04:49, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Not quite correct. The cited source is a chapter in a book, not a journal article (and the value assigned to
|doi=
always begins10.
.{{Cite journal}}
requires|journal=
; when it doesn't have that, the template emits an (alas, hidden) error message. The OP received the message when a bot detected the addition of Chronophilia to Category:CS1 errors: missing periodical. As I understand it, the bot is not currently monitoring Category:CS1 errors: missing periodical. - The correct fix is to use
{{cite book}}
with chapter title, book title, publisher, author(s), editor(s), etc (all that information listed in OP's post). - —Trappist the monk (talk) 12:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Not quite correct. The cited source is a chapter in a book, not a journal article (and the value assigned to
Source integrity issueEdit
At this writing, I'm about to add a section in the DC Thomson page about a former subsidiary of theirs, long-obscure children's imprint Peter Haddock (h/t my latest Reddit comment). (What WP already has on file under this topic title refers to an English footballer who once played for Newcastle and Leeds United.) During my research a while ago, I found out that Thomson acquired Haddock in 1993, but the only proof of this claim is a company-history brochure on their official issuu account. My usual helping hands--EBSCO, Gale, ProQuest, and the newspaper archives--have absolutely nothing discussing this anecdote amid their already sparse coverage. (Not even The Times, a given for British subjects, is of any help here.)
TL/DR: Primary source with practically no companion independent coverage to go by. Like I said, "long obscure". Then again, Gale has an obituary on its eponymous founder (1931/32-2001), belated by a year--but that's not even enough to base an article on him. For now, all we'll put in is this tidbit re: DC Thomson's closure of the company by late 2013.
If I've posted in the wrong place, then I express my apologies. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 07:39, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Although ISFDB cannot be considered a Reliable source (being user-generated, like Wikipedia), it can provide useful clues. Currently it has only 2 Peter Haddock titles entries – see here (click on 'Priory Classics' for one and '1972' for the other). Probably not much help. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.210.77 (talk) 16:05, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Technical problem with logged-in editingEdit
I can't edit Help Desk or Reference Desk pages while logged in. The screen looks like this. There's no button to click to publish the edit. Wikimedia Status says everything is fine. I can edit ordinary pages, so it seems to be something to do with a script or suchlike loaded on those pages. 2A02:C7C:9A0B:3500:7D8C:B8AB:B5DA:8E43 (talk) 11:22, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi all,Edit
I have created a page for POLIS UNIVERSITY, and I wanted to publish it but I am not an editor.
I have just created a user two months ago.
How can make this possible? IQAU-2023 (talk) 11:30, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Courtesy link User:IQAU-2023/sandbox it is just blatant advertising and not acceptable in it's current form. Theroadislong (talk) 11:35, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Did you write User:IQAU-2023/sandbox yourself? (I suspect that you did not.) -- Hoary (talk) 11:38, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- "Being an integral part and fully embedded in the society and the local ecosystem has been part of its vision and mission since day one. It is inherent to the DNA of this institution to position itself as an actor with strong and effective ties to the local economy, to the policy makers and to the society at large." See WP:PEACOCK.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:46, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- I'm afraid that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 12:10, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- The text appears to be largely copied and pasted from the university’s website, which is a copyright violation and therefore unacceptable under any circumstances, and I have tagged the page for speedy deletion on that basis. --Finngall talk 14:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Help meEdit
hey! I need some help from you guys. One user again reverted my edits without any specific reason and said "Block evading sock" Bruhh is here (talk) 14:35, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: A sockpuppet investigation involving this user has been opened. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- He still reverting my edits without any explanation. Please ask him to stop reverting my edits unnecessarily until the investigation is disclosed
- @Tenryuu. Bruhh is here (talk) 03:10, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have no interest in this matter. Please don't ping me any further. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:25, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Who can help me @samX Bruhh is here (talk) 03:33, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have no interest in this matter. Please don't ping me any further. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:25, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Converting drafts into userboxesEdit
Hello! Since I've remembered about this draft I've created a while ago, which hardly meets WP:GNG as of now, I just wanted to ask if there's a way to turn the page into a personal userbox, so I can keep on working on it while reducing the backlog. Should I just use the "Move" function? Oltrepier (talk) 15:53, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oltrepier as it is a "Draft article not currently submitted for review." it is not part of the backlog. Continue working on it where it is as only after you have submitted it, does it join the queue - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 16:36, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Arjayay Good, but I can still move the page to the user space if I needed to, right? Oltrepier (talk) 16:47, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Citation ErrorsEdit
Hello. I just created the article List of songs recorded by For King & Country and it appears that I have many citation errors. I'm not a citation expert, and Citation Bot doesn't find anything to fix. Could somebody go in there and fix all of the citations that need fixing? Cherrell410 (talk) 16:12, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Does the (help) text for those errors not tell you what you need to know to fix them?
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 16:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Done - All but one of the errors was caused by non-printing space being inserted into the titles. This is probably due to cut-and-paste which can give all sorts of hidden errors. If you can't sort them out, retype them to get rid of the problem. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Alrighty, thanks! Cherrell410 (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Done - All but one of the errors was caused by non-printing space being inserted into the titles. This is probably due to cut-and-paste which can give all sorts of hidden errors. If you can't sort them out, retype them to get rid of the problem. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
My profile is not showingEdit
My profile is not showing when I search in wikipedia Manshad Manzz (talk) 16:19, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Manshad Manzz, Wikipedia does not have "profiles", we are not Facebook. You have a user page at Manshad Manzz which is not meant to show in an article search, because it is not an article. Please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for a more detailed explanation. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 16:31, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
I recently came across an article, Hitler's Grave, and noticed it has one source, which only gives the movie a passing mention. However, after googling the film online to find more sources, I only found some review websites like Rotten Tomatoes. Do these count as reliable sources, or does it not pass WP:GNG? RteeeeKed💬📖 16:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @RteeeeKed: Take a look at WP:NFILM for the guideline. RudolfRed (talk) 17:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, will do. RteeeeKed💬📖 20:11, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- RteeeeKed, Rotten Tomatoes is an aggregator that can be used cautiously. One of its most useful features is that it often links to professional critical reviews published in reliable sources. Read Wikipedia:Review aggregators for more information. In this particular case, their coverage of the film is negligible, and does not include any critic reviews. Cullen328 (talk) 20:25, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, will do. RteeeeKed💬📖 20:11, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Deleted pageEdit
My name is Graham Fulton. I'm a a poet and I've had a page on Wikipedia for over ten years. I went to check on it today for the first time in a while and find that it no longer exists! Why is this, and how can get it reinstated. 46.208.66.82 (talk) 17:28, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Graham_Fulton. Articles about poets need to meet WP:NPOET, which apparently is not the case here. RudolfRed (talk) 17:49, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Graham. Wikipedia's article about you (which was never "your page") was deleted last month: you can see the deletion discussion here. It was concluded there there were not enough independent reliable substantial sources about you to meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability.
- If you can find several sources about you (not from you or your associates) that each meet the golden rule, then it is possible that Wikipedia could again have an article about you - you are strongly discouraged from attempting to write it yourself, but if you can find such sources and present them here, then there is a possibility somebody might be willing to have a go. Alternatively, if you present them at WT:WikiProject Poetry somebody there might be interested.
- However, if you cannot find such sources, please do not spend any more time on this or ask anybody else to do so.
- You might also care to have a look at An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ColinFine (talk) 17:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- The article was created by somebody with the odd username "Daveallenukseo". Allen seems to have had no interests outside Fulton. -- Hoary (talk) 06:52, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Username policy violation on foreign-language WikipediaEdit
A bit back, I was browsing through Wikipedia and came across a link to the Arabic Wikipedia, which I clicked out of curiosity. Since it was in Arabic, I left, but soon after an automated bot welcomed me. I didn't care, since I wouldn't likely contribute to the Arabic Wikipedia since I don't speak it. But yesterday, I got a message on my talk page saying that my username violated the username policy on the Arabic Wikipedia and that if I did not request a username change within seven days, I would be blocked on the Arabic Wikipedia. (at least, that's what my browser's built-in translator said)
I don't want to change my username, as, of course, that would change my username here too. I also can't respond to the post well, as I would have to use Google Translate. My question is: What should I do here, and would a block there affect my editing here in some way? interstatefive 18:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Interstatefive, other users seem to have had the same problem and resolved it at User talk:Dr-Taher. TSventon (talk) 18:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- From the comments there, it seems that it's fine to allow the block on the Arabic Wikipedia. After all, it will be a soft block, so if I suddenly learn Arabic and want to contribute there, I can just create a new account. interstatefive 18:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- I can recommend Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library, which you [generally] can't use if you are blocked on any project. The message seems unhelpful when addressed to editors who have no interest in editing ar Wikipedia, but it may well be in line with ar Wikipedia rules. TSventon (talk) 18:58, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- So TWL will be the only effect of an Arabic Wikipedia block here? interstatefive 19:23, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know what other effects there might be, but you can probably worry about further problems if and when they happen. I am tempted to ask Dr-Taher if they could confine their blocks to editors who actually edit ar Wikipedia, but without much hope of success. TSventon (talk) 20:16, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- So TWL will be the only effect of an Arabic Wikipedia block here? interstatefive 19:23, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- I can recommend Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library, which you [generally] can't use if you are blocked on any project. The message seems unhelpful when addressed to editors who have no interest in editing ar Wikipedia, but it may well be in line with ar Wikipedia rules. TSventon (talk) 18:58, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- From the comments there, it seems that it's fine to allow the block on the Arabic Wikipedia. After all, it will be a soft block, so if I suddenly learn Arabic and want to contribute there, I can just create a new account. interstatefive 18:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Could someone correct the title of this page? Italics should not be inserted. JackkBrown (talk) 23:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @JackkBrown: Done! I removed the italics by adding
|italic title=no
to {{Infobox television}}. GoingBatty (talk) 01:51, 28 May 2023 (UTC)- @GoingBatty: thank you, well done; however within the infobox the italics remained. JackkBrown (talk) 12:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have added
name = {{noitalic|Miss Italia}}
.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 13:46, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have added
- @GoingBatty: thank you, well done; however within the infobox the italics remained. JackkBrown (talk) 12:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
May 28Edit
New Page ReviewerEdit
I'd really love to become a New Page Reviewer but I have been denied multiple times but that was a while ago. What do I need to read and what do I need to do? The Tips of Apmh 03:36, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- The Tips of Apmh, if something isn't explained in Wikipedia:New pages patrol, then you could ask about it in Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol. -- Hoary (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
hover page preview no longer workingEdit
The page preview function when hovering over hyperlink text has stopped working, as of several days ago. I use Firefox and have made no change to my settings. What has changed and how do I get it to work again? 2603:7000:95F0:8B50:6116:C0EE:E063:BAD (talk) 03:43, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Was it a wikilink or an external link with a trailing after it? The Page Previews should work for non-registered users, but MediaWiki describes some methods to bring it back if it has disappeared. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:08, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Postage stamps (fair use question)Edit
I would like to include reference images of two postage stamps (one Australian, see: 90c Embryo Chair Stamp; one German, see: Serie "Design aus Deutschland" Herbert Lindinger: Stadtbahn Stuttgart) in articles about the designers whose work is fêted on the stamps (Marc Newson and Herbert Lindinger, respectively). Is this permitted fair use? My understanding is that the images would not be accepted on Commons (the rules for which are bewilderingly complex to a non-lawyer), however they may be acceptable on en:wp specifically to illustrate the claim that the designer's work was featured on a postage stamp. [NB: The photo of the S-DT8.12 Stuttgart light rail car used in the Lindnger article seems to be the actual source image for the stamp itself.] Appreciate any advice and guidance. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Cl3phact0 If it was to discuss the design. or designer, of the stamp itself, then as per WP:NFCI, that would be acceptable, "for identification of the stamp or currency, not the subjects depicted on it." However, you seem to want to use the stamp specifically to show the subject depicted on it, which is not allowed per WP:NFCI.
The answer also depends on the copyright laws of the country of origin - e.g. This stamp from India is allowed to be used to illustrate the subject because of the "National Data Sharing and Accessibility Policy (NDSAP) of the Government of India" - Unfortunately I do not know the copyright rules for stamps of Australia, or Germany, you would need to look for stamps from those countries to see if there is a similar permission. - Arjayay (talk) 11:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)- Thank you, Arjayay. The articles are both about designers, and in this case, the purpose of the image use would be to highlight the design of the stamps (which are, in both cases, part of series celebrating design itself). Also in both cases, the design of the stamp features an object designed by the designer in question, and in one case the design of the stamp
wasseems to be based on a photo found on Commons – thus my confusion about the fair use admissibility.) -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 12:00, 28 May 2023 (UTC)- Cl3phact0 You seem to be confusing my statements. If the article is about the designer of the stamp itself, that is allowed per WP:NFCI. If the article is about the designer of the object depicted on the stamp, that is not allowed. - Arjayay (talk) 12:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Forgive me if I wasn't clear. Let me rephrase: The claim in the articles is that there is a stamp which depicts the designers' work. I want to show the stamp itself to validate this claim (and also show the design of the stamp – not the design or designer of the object depicted). Therefore, the intent is "to discuss the design" of the stamp itself. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 12:17, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Cl3phact0 Personally, I think you are stretching a point, as "to discuss the design of the stamp itself" doesn't really seem to be the purpose. I suggest you re-ask your question at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions - Arjayay (talk) 12:40, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Arjayay, I am happy to ask again on the Media copyright questions forum you've kindly provided (the existence of which I was unaware of – so thank you for that too!). Please understand that I am not simply looking for the answer I'd (obviously) like to hear, I'm just looking for the right answer.
- If one reads the WP:NFCI section 3. to the letter, then this is arguably a case of "identification of the stamp". That the "subjects depicted" also are relevant seems a function of the fact that in this case the raison d'être of the actual stamps is "Design" (notwithstanding who designed them), and the articles in question are about designers (who indubitably designed the objects depicted).
- I am also happy to drop the matter altogether and not include these images in the articles if doing otherwise means protracted debate, tiresome defence of their inclusion, and the frustration of the eventual deletion of the uploads regardless (an experience I wish to avoid repeating – which is why I came here to ask before going to the trouble of sourcing and uploading the files, adding them to the articles, etc.). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 14:51, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Done (Please see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions if interested.) Thanks again for trying to help solve for an answer! -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:24, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Cl3phact0 Personally, I think you are stretching a point, as "to discuss the design of the stamp itself" doesn't really seem to be the purpose. I suggest you re-ask your question at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions - Arjayay (talk) 12:40, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Forgive me if I wasn't clear. Let me rephrase: The claim in the articles is that there is a stamp which depicts the designers' work. I want to show the stamp itself to validate this claim (and also show the design of the stamp – not the design or designer of the object depicted). Therefore, the intent is "to discuss the design" of the stamp itself. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 12:17, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Cl3phact0 You seem to be confusing my statements. If the article is about the designer of the stamp itself, that is allowed per WP:NFCI. If the article is about the designer of the object depicted on the stamp, that is not allowed. - Arjayay (talk) 12:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, Arjayay. The articles are both about designers, and in this case, the purpose of the image use would be to highlight the design of the stamps (which are, in both cases, part of series celebrating design itself). Also in both cases, the design of the stamp features an object designed by the designer in question, and in one case the design of the stamp
QuoteEdit
A user rightly deleted my edit on the "Sergio Leone" page because the text was not in the correct place, but where can I insert this quote from the well-known historical figure?
— Sergio Leone
JackkBrown (talk) 14:37, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hello JackkBrown, if you have contextual information (e.g., When did Leone say this? To whom? In reference to what?), it shouldn't be too hard to find an appropriate place to include the quote if it is indeed relevant to the article. A good reference source for the quote is important too. (It's an interesting quote, in my view.) Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:00, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Multiple vandalisms, not undoable without rollbackEdit
Good afternoon, a rollback is needed here: CiccioGamer89. JackkBrown (talk) 15:11, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I've reverted the latest edits by the IP as they were unconstructive. In the future, you can simply mark in the article's history which edits you'd like to revert to undo them all at once, no rollback needed. Help:Page history contains information on how to do this. Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 15:14, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
disable the unsaved changes recovery?Edit
When I edit a page, I frequently want to open a copy of the page to look at something. Whenever I do that, it "recovers" the changes from my first copy. This is unbelievably annoying. Is there a way to disable that behavior? Adoring nanny (talk) 16:40, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Adoring nanny There are a couple of things you could try. In the source editor you can toggle the "Preview" option top right in the editing window and it will a split-screen view where the right-hand part is the full article and you can scroll this to look at any part of the existing article (without any changes you might be making in the edit window, since they are not yet saved). Alternatively, on a PC I often open a separate browser tab and navigate to the article (or any other relevant page) which then behaves completely independently. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:52, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I wish the separate tab would behave independently. For me it does not. Perhaps I need to be logged out on the second tab? Adoring nanny (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I generally don't have any trouble with this when I open the edit link in a new tab. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:31, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Adoring nanny: If you open the copy with a browser feature to duplicate the current tab then it's working as intended. It's done by the browser and not Wikipedia. Try to Ctrl-click the Edit tab instead. If you were making a section edit then it will edit the whole page. If you only want the section then Ctrl-click the left-most tab to view the rendered page, navigate to the section and click the section edit link. If you actually prefer the rendered page then just stop there. You can also try to open the copy as you usually do but then add
&
to the end of the url and press enter to reload. If this doesn't help then what is your browser and operating system, and exactly how do you open the copy? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:33, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Adoring nanny: If you open the copy with a browser feature to duplicate the current tab then it's working as intended. It's done by the browser and not Wikipedia. Try to Ctrl-click the Edit tab instead. If you were making a section edit then it will edit the whole page. If you only want the section then Ctrl-click the left-most tab to view the rendered page, navigate to the section and click the section edit link. If you actually prefer the rendered page then just stop there. You can also try to open the copy as you usually do but then add
- I generally don't have any trouble with this when I open the edit link in a new tab. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:31, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I wish the separate tab would behave independently. For me it does not. Perhaps I need to be logged out on the second tab? Adoring nanny (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
"Gemelli DiVersi", not "Gemelli Diversi"Edit
Could someone correct the title of this page? The correct title already exists and, therefore, I would not know how to correct the current title. It's spelled "Gemelli DiVersi", not "Gemelli Diversi". Source: https://www.rockol.it/artista/gemelli-diversi; another source (this one is "official"): https://www.allmusic.com/artist/gemelli-diversi-mn0000718844. JackkBrown (talk) 19:33, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @JackkBrown: You can move the page yourself, or ask over at Wikipedia:Technical move requests if it's an uncontroversial move. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:50, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Tenryuu: I cannot do it myself, I already specified why. JackkBrown (talk) 20:27, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Tenryuu: I added a request within the page you linked me to. JackkBrown (talk) 22:24, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- JackkBrown, what do you mean when you say that https://www.allmusic.com/artist/gemelli-diversi-mn0000718844 is "official"? -- Hoary (talk) 23:27, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Hoary: what I mean is that RhythmOne ("AllMusic is owned by RhythmOne"), being a company, is certainly more "official" than the newspaper Rockol. JackkBrown (talk) 23:30, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- JackkBrown, more "reliable", more "credible", more "authoritative", but not more "official". -- Hoary (talk) 23:36, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Hoary: what I mean is that RhythmOne ("AllMusic is owned by RhythmOne"), being a company, is certainly more "official" than the newspaper Rockol. JackkBrown (talk) 23:30, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I've corrected the title. -- Hoary (talk) 23:42, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Hoary: thank you! Anyway, yes, I used "official" improperly. JackkBrown (talk) 23:43, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- JackkBrown, for ease of promotion, people in the public eye sometimes want to use a simplified version or spelling of their name, so a commercial entity connected to them would deliberately use such an "incorrect" version/spelling.
- Consider for example the Dutch racing driver Rinus van Kalmthout, who on moving to the USA to compete in the USF2000 Championship adopted 'Rinus VeeKay' because he knew Americans would have difficulty pronouncing his real surname correctly.
- This sort of usage is an example of a Wikipedia:COMMONNAME, so we would use it for an article title. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.210.77 (talk) 03:35, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Dear IP address, DiVersi is a play on words; in the Italian language "versi" can also mean "verses" as far as poetrys are concerned, while "diversi" means "different". JackkBrown (talk) 09:30, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Hoary: thank you! Anyway, yes, I used "official" improperly. JackkBrown (talk) 23:43, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Adding informationEdit
I am not sure how to add information and I don't want to mess a page up. I was looking to see Rob Estes information and I noticed there is one movie that is not on his list. It's from this year the movie is Just Jake and he plays the main character Jake. It was on Hallmark. Sue4602 (talk) 20:51, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sue4602, sorry, but Rob Mayes starred in that TV movie. Cullen328 (talk) 21:03, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yes I know. I just realized who I said. Sorry about that. Sue4602 (talk) 21:44, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Sue4602. Thank you for wanting to help improve Wikipedia. I see that Cullen pointed out your mistake, but for future reference: if you want to add something to an article but are not sure how, every article has an associated talk page where people can discuss how to improve the article, so in this case (according to what you thought) it would be Talk:Rob Estes. The other thing to note is that all information added to an article should come from a reliable published source, not from our own knowledge; so if we want to add something to an article, the very first thing we should do is look for a source, not rely on our own knowledge. In this case, if you had done that, you would have found your mistake! ColinFine (talk) 08:13, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yes I know. I just realized who I said. Sorry about that. Sue4602 (talk) 21:44, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
May 29Edit
HelpEdit
how to wikilink a category? The Tips of Apmh 02:56, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- The Tips of Apmh, precise (not generic) thread titles are always appreciated. As for your question, as a ferinstance: "Thank you for offering to copyedit and otherwise improve [[:Category:Banana cultivars|every article on a banana cultivar]]." -- Hoary (talk) 06:12, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- In case it's not obvious, Tips, what Hoary has done is to start the wikilink with a colon (":"). This is a general feature - you can use it for files (eg
[[:File:Tina Turner 50th Anniversary Tour.jpg]]
giving File:Tina Turner 50th Anniversary Tour.jpg, and interlanguage links ([[:de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia]]
displays as de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia). In fact it doesn't even matter if you use it when it is not needed, eg[[:Tina Turner]]
is exactly the same as[[Tina Turner]]
. ColinFine (talk) 08:21, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[[:Tina Turner]]
and[[Tina Turner]]
produce the same result but the former may confuse some editors and link-search methods so use the latter for links to articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:44, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
I have added a file (Portrait) and it is way too big/large - please fix if you are able. The caption underneath should read: Queen Caroline. Thanks and sorry! 115.70.23.77 (talk) 03:53, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, I have fixed the issue. When adding a file, you can press the image icon at the top and fill in the boxes, instead of having to do it manually :) The Tips of Apmh 04:34, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- I don't understand: Why have a footnote to this article tell the reader ".Philip Medows m. Frances Pierrepont / .CHARLES MEDOWS PIERREPONT, 1st Earl MANVERS (1737–1816) / .NB: This document also shows Kate Middleton's descent from Daniel Meadows/Medows (died 1651/59)"? How does this assist anyone's understanding of the ostensible subject of the article? -- Hoary (talk) 08:44, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Suggestion/Instructions Required to get Speedy ApprovalEdit
Dear Sir, Please help me regarding Speedy Approval of my article named as Draft: Abad Mehmood Ali (Advocate) Hafiz AALC (talk) 09:38, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Abad Mehmood Ali (Advocate) was deleted on 27 April 2023, because it failed to show that the person was notable and was also considered to be promotional. Unless these problems are solved, the draft will not become an article.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:44, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also there is no such thing here as speedy approval. Shantavira|feed me 13:27, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Article requirements to post on wikipedia?Edit
Hello, I want to post an article on wikipedia and I don't want that my article would be removed in future. That's why, I am looking for guidelines that can help me to write an article for wikipedia. 2407:AA80:126:A493:BCA2:7AFF:3126:2E8 (talk) 11:15, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Then you would be looking for WP:YFA. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 11:22, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- The vital point is that all topics written about must be notable as defined here and please don't try to write an autobiography for the reasons given at that link. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:24, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
The corresponding page within the Wikipedia in Italian language is much richer, but the two pages have almost the same number of references (4 en.wiki, 5 it.wiki). In my opinion, there is no basis for inserting the "Expand Italian" notice. I ask for an opinion, thanks. JackkBrown (talk) 14:40, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- If you wish to suggest improvements or changes to any article, the place to do so is the Talk page of that article (and within the appropriate language Wikipedia). Shantavira|feed me 14:54, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
[reply] button blocked by stalled “new section”Edit
On one discussion page (only) all of the [reply] links are greyed out, and at the bottom there is a “new section” field that only has a “Subject” field and the word “Loading. . . ” under it.
It only affects one of my devices. Reloading the page doesn’t clear this. Logging out and back in doesn’t clear it. Very frustrating because loading the page always jumps to the bottom so section links are broken. —Michael Z. 17:34, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Got it. Clearing cookies and cache for wikipedia.org fixed it. I thought of this when I realized it was even happening on that page when I was logged out. —Michael Z. 17:42, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
intimidating userEdit
Hello,
I am trying to contribute. I opened an entry related to a specific medical condition that I have nearly two years ago. I tend to update it when I'm hospitalised. Another user has been flagging me and the comments are intimidating. I tried to push back, but they threatened me and said that I will face consequences for questing what feels like strong motives (and I found on their YouTube page a stated personal opinion against the story of entry I'm trying to create). I stated this and they flagged me for an insult/personal attack. It wasn't, it was a statement of fact while they are accusing me of all sorts of things, destroying my entry, flagging me. I don't want to be bullied on Wikipedia for trying to help others - especially when I am in hospital getting medical care after a removed organ! How do I deal with such trolling on Wikipedia and not get hurt more? WikiEd97531 (talk) 18:11, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- @WikiEd97531: You should know that Julius Senegal is right most of the time. There are WP:RULES which you ignore. He does not have an axe to grind against you, but he has an axe to grind against original research and against WP:PRIMARY medical studies. He is right about those. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:21, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- His language is atrocious! He assumed lots of things and made horrible accusations, then, it turns out he has the publicly stated bias. He is intimidating a user who is trying to contribute. I am not a Wiki pro. I have been trying to fix the entry. I don't want or need the snarky remarks. It helps NOBODY and keeps other people who would contribute from contributing. The page is in English for UK and US users.. I don't even thing he is in these countries or language. I believe the entry has been rectified now? WikiEd97531 (talk) 18:40, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- The article is in English for anyone in the world, not just the UK or the US- anyone that can communicate effectively in English. 331dot (talk) 18:46, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- WikiEd97531, this is a worldwide project and people from every country are free to contribute, as long as they comply with our policies and guidelines. Among those is Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine). Have you read it? Do you understand it? Are you complying with it? Cullen328 (talk) 18:53, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
publicly stated bias
—see WP:GOODBIAS. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:56, 29 May 2023 (UTC)- NO need to excessively troll me. I am trying to contribute and fix things without a full on assault. I was hit with a lot of allegations and accusations. I was asked to explain myself, and I did. I tried to defend myself and got attacked more. I asked for info and help in each post as a new user. I said 'put the citation' and I will fix it. No need to beat the horse here... this is supposed to be volunteer help. I did not 'insult' the other user. I simply stated something that was online (publicly available) due to the accusations and strength of wording being put onto me. I get enough flak from doctors at hospital when I try to learn info and I had to learn it all myself. Which is why I made the entry. WikiEd97531 (talk) 19:14, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- I don't wish to be rude to you, but you have to learn how we do things around here. tgeorgescu (talk) 19:16, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- I would also gently suggest that if your goal is merely to provide information about this medical condition, a website that you own and control, or social media, would be better avenues to do that. Editing about medical conditions on Wikipedia, is as you have found, very challenging with strict sourcing requirements- as in most jurisdictions it is illegal for Wikipedia to provide medical advice. 331dot (talk) 19:22, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- ...by which I only mean that we must be very careful in what is written, and how it is sourced. 331dot (talk) 19:24, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- NO need to excessively troll me. I am trying to contribute and fix things without a full on assault. I was hit with a lot of allegations and accusations. I was asked to explain myself, and I did. I tried to defend myself and got attacked more. I asked for info and help in each post as a new user. I said 'put the citation' and I will fix it. No need to beat the horse here... this is supposed to be volunteer help. I did not 'insult' the other user. I simply stated something that was online (publicly available) due to the accusations and strength of wording being put onto me. I get enough flak from doctors at hospital when I try to learn info and I had to learn it all myself. Which is why I made the entry. WikiEd97531 (talk) 19:14, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- WikiEd97531, this is a worldwide project and people from every country are free to contribute, as long as they comply with our policies and guidelines. Among those is Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine). Have you read it? Do you understand it? Are you complying with it? Cullen328 (talk) 18:53, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- The article is in English for anyone in the world, not just the UK or the US- anyone that can communicate effectively in English. 331dot (talk) 18:46, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- His language is atrocious! He assumed lots of things and made horrible accusations, then, it turns out he has the publicly stated bias. He is intimidating a user who is trying to contribute. I am not a Wiki pro. I have been trying to fix the entry. I don't want or need the snarky remarks. It helps NOBODY and keeps other people who would contribute from contributing. The page is in English for UK and US users.. I don't even thing he is in these countries or language. I believe the entry has been rectified now? WikiEd97531 (talk) 18:40, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- @WikiEd97531 I saw that the article you're referring to is in Japanese and Korean. This might just be me, but maybe try to get sources from there and see if they fit the standards. That could go a long way. Unless, of course, the article is fully translated from both languages. Losipov (talk) 19:27, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
updating informationEdit
The Wiki page on John Ogden (photographer) is ten years old and requires updating. Do I need to find the Source editor and, if so, how? SonOfCyclops (talk) 22:37, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- hi @SonOfCyclops and welcome to Wikipedia! you do not, you can edit it now! happy editing! 💜 melecie talk - 22:57, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- But it is my page and I don't think it's acceptable for the subject to make the edits. 61.68.75.27 (talk) 23:09, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- If the article is about you, then yes you should be cautious about editing it and read WP:AUTO. If you want to suggest changes to the article, you can start a discussion on the article's talk page and mark it with {{Edit request}} RudolfRed (talk) 23:16, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I have started the discussion. As the current page is about 10 years old it is misleading tot he extent that my career focus has changed considerably. SonOfCyclops (talk) 01:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- If the article is about you, then yes you should be cautious about editing it and read WP:AUTO. If you want to suggest changes to the article, you can start a discussion on the article's talk page and mark it with {{Edit request}} RudolfRed (talk) 23:16, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- But it is my page and I don't think it's acceptable for the subject to make the edits. 61.68.75.27 (talk) 23:09, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
picture deletedEdit
The picture I posted on my article was wrongfully removed. I own a copyright to the picture and I indicated it as such. Please restore the picture because there has been no copyright violation. Please let me know if you have any specific question. I am a reputable editor Dotmantek (talk) 22:49, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Dotmantek: follow the instructions in the message left at your talk page RudolfRed (talk) 22:55, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Dotmantek If you are the copyright holder, you can use the tool here:Commons:Wikimedia VRT release generator. It will help you write a mail releasing the photo under an acceptable license and tell you where to send it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:49, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
May 30Edit
Referencing errors on Nikita KucherovEdit
Reference help requested.
Thanks, 2601:408:C181:8B80:24E9:7A4:BD78:2D6A (talk) 00:04, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
How do I cite things with the number at the upper end of a sentence? I just made an account so I can add some stuff to pages some forgot to write about.
- Hi there! See the video at WP:EASYREFBEGIN. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:25, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Ref numbers 9, 38 and 41 are all the same - I cannot do the thing whereby they area all "amalgamated" into the one ref (leave in quote please), can you help/fix please? Thanks 115.70.23.77 (talk) 01:09, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- I think I fixed it, but double check that I didn't mess anything up. I'm not clear on the purpose of the citations in the image caption, but I left them in. Larry Hockett (Talk) 01:30, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Missing personalityEdit
Please explain why Vinnie Tortorich has been removed from your site.He is a very real person with a great deal of knowledge who has served celebrities and regular folks on healthy weightloss journeys, made movies, runs a podcast, written books and more. What is Wikipedia afraid of? Or maybe I should ask Why are you afraid of truth? Rmkpl3 (talk) 01:28, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Seems like Vinnie Tortorich was deleted based on self-promotional purposes, according to the deletion log. LilianaUwU (talk / contribs) 01:34, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- To expand on Liliana's answer: Wikipedia is not interested in "personalities" or "celebrities". It is interested in subjects which meet its own criteria for notability, which is basically about whether there has been enough independent material published about the subject. Some articles are indeed about "personalities", but being popular or prominent or wealthy does not of itself guarantee that there can be an article. Furthermore, every article should be a neutral summary of what those independent sources say. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. ColinFine (talk) 10:50, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Reference numbers 38 and 40 are also the same source - or can you remove reference number 38 from the picture of Lady Bullock perhaps if you think it's not necessary? - thanks so much. 115.70.23.77 (talk) 01:40, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Combined references per WP:NAMEDREFS. GoingBatty (talk) 02:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for including that wikilink. I was going to link to it for the user's future reference, but I couldn't find the page. I was looking right past it. Larry Hockett (Talk) 03:26, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Vegas Golden Knights..Edit
When you summarized their seasons you forgot their inaugural season where they lost in the Stanley Cup Final. 76.68.47.254 (talk) 03:14, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi IP 76.68.47.254. If you feel that you can improve the article Vegas Golden Knights and do so in a way that is in accordance with relevant relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines, then you can WP:BOLDly do so yourself. Don't worry about making mistakes because anything you do can either be undone or fixed by someone else. If you're not willing to boldly edit the article yourself, you can start a discussion about the changes you think should be made at Talk:Vegas Golden Knights. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:53, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Just saying, Marchjuly, that article is semi-protected... because hockey fans. LilianaUwU (talk / contribs) 06:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Editing DirectorEdit
Hi I am from the marketing team at The Garvan Institute of Medical Research: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garvan_Institute_of_Medical_Research
I was just wondering if the the directors could please be updated. The Institute has recently appointed a new director and therefore the page should say
Professor Chris Goodnow (1 June 2018 - 22 July 2022) Professor Benjamin Kile (27 April - incumbent) 58.169.210.167 (talk) 06:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi! Update done. Checks out per [2] and I'll take your word on the dates. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:10, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi there! In the future, you can post requests to update the article on its talk page: Talk:Garvan Institute of Medical Research with the {{edit request}} template, or use the Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard if you find that easier. Thanks for your efforts to keep Wikipedia updated! GoingBatty (talk) 12:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Blackbody energy densityEdit
In blackbody radiation, how do you go from measuring radiation power per unit area to energy density per unit volume? I am looking for this formula and one of the first publications that uses it, by Wilhelm Wien for example. Because in the laws of Kirchhoff and Stephan-Boltzmann it is always a question of radiation power. Malypaet (talk) 07:30, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- I see you found Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science#Blackbody_energy_density, that is the place for this type of question. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:42, 30 May 2023 (UTC)